The belt gives 2k armor penetration and 2k deflection both of these are at legendary as well. Demogorgon set gives 2300 Critical Strike and 2300 deflection. Moving onto rings yes you net gain 4.5% dmg to encounter powers only and net a total of about 9979 Armor pen and and 6653 combat advantage.
I want to start a new discussion, heavy vs medium armor in PvP (1v1 like duels, small scale like BG and also group play). I know this is a science for itself, so im interested in comments and experiences.

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recovery think since armor penetration dose not work in pve,and recovery work very good like 1% cd reduction from it turn in 3% so whit 2k recovery u can have 40% or close to it cd reduction
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If you check out this post I already did the math for Power Vs Crit. Anyone who is still saying ARP is useless in PVE should probably stop trying to give advice to people. You can skip to the end of the post if you just want to see the stat weights / caps and avoid the math.
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armor penetration dose not work in pve..my friend stack it over 22% and he dose not have bigger damage in pve,and i have it close to 10% and dont work in pve to
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After 22% it stops doing anything because PVE dungeon monsters only have 22% damage reduction. If you are trying to use dummies to test it then that's why you don't see a change. Dummies have no damage resistance. If you are trying to use much of anything else to test it then I doubt you are actually testing it in any way that is useful.
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After 22% it stops doing anything because PVE dungeon monsters only have 22% damage reduction. If you are trying to use dummies to test it then that's why you don't see a change. Dummies have no damage resistance. If you are trying to use much of anything else to test it then I doubt you are actually testing it in any way that is useful.
That made me wonder.. If you have other classes that apply resistence debuffs on the target playing with you constantly (GF and GWF are 2 I know that have abilities that do that), we will not need that much armor pen (22%).. this is more the case when playing besides a GWF, cause they can AoE debuff mobs resistence.
Edit: well, for bosses where the rogue will be all alone doing the damage, we still need it.
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@% Defense bonus above their base def allowing you to get you full dmg from encounters and at wills after that debuffs from GF/gwf and other classes cause the targets defense to drop below their base amount or INTO THE NEGATIVE giving you a direct dmg increase aross the board
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B A S E defense this forum bleeped it out for some reas
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I used to stack as many Power as posible, but now i think about changing it:
stats with stone pet:
Power - 6700 = +268dmg
Critical Strike - 2750 = +16,4% crit chance
Armor Penetracion - 1060 = +10,2% res ignored
what if take most bonus power from jewelry/enchants/pet (about 3k?) and put that into armor penetracion or crit strike or recovery ?? wouldn't that go better for dps ?

for the record like its been stated above power outweighs crit by alot after you have 2200-2400 crit rating arp out weighs your crit till you have 22% recovery i personaly ****ing hate i thinks its a terribe stat and it made the itemization for rogue tier gear **** ill stick to my non tier epics and rock my 2 set shadewalkers till i can get 4 piece swash since thats the only set owrht **** but i stack power at all times then arp to 22% then crit to 2200-2400 then rest into power as much as you can
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armor penetration dose not work in pve..my friend stack it over 22% and he dose not have bigger damage in pve,and i have it close to 10% and dont work in pve to
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The Warhammer is a bit heavy, but its armor penetration is beyond anything you've ever seen. It's also a bit slow, but you can always switch weapons when you need it and use the hammer at more appropriate times. For example, when you need to break through armor and smash some bones, all you need to do is to make sure that it connects. If your enemy has 65% or less armor pen resist, go with armor penetration, if more than 65% go with power. In the end its not that much diffrence. 4k arm pen on a target with 65% armpen resist should give around 12.5% more dmg, on 70% arm pen resist it gives 9% dmg. While power always gives 10% dmg. Jun 17, 2011 You will see, how much crit damage would be needed to outperform the Armor-Pen-Runes at each armor level. Formula at bottom: The formula I used to create the left plots; the Heavyside Step Function (Teta) is only to avoid negative armor-pen values. C is Crit-Chance, but set just to 1 (for the left plots I adjusted it with 0.5, 0.75, 1).

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Like jhpnw said. class will make a lot of difference as to what is better TRs for instance have some of his main skills ignoring a percentage of resistance. Other classes as well to a lesser extent. The deal is that you want to penetrate enough of the enemy defences enough to do damage, low arpen high power can do the trick, but with variable inconsistent effect. Meaning if you get debuffed your power will suffer, so much of your damage may get mitigated, while I dont believe there is anything that can negate the amount of resistances ignored (unless they are capped at the 80% plus a ton of tenacity darn OPs) Unless you have a ungodly amount of power which some people out there do. But when you stack arpen you know you are ignoring a certain amount and allowing your power to do the rest. Then the occasional crit may help that was well.
Anyways that is what I have gathered so far in my limited exposure to pvp mechanics.

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Arm pen is best against low DR targets, Power is best against High DR targets. Most classes should stack power or power and crit. The exception being GWFs who can super stack power by stacking armpen because of their feats which give them power from arm pen, recovery, and defense.
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Wow guys. Great responses. Keep'em coming. You def. helped with my decision to continue stacking arm pen. As it is easier to get power by other means.
200 arm pen equals 1% damage where 400 power equals 1% I believe.

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